This BLOG was established as a site to express feelings of the heart and mind surrounding the June 19, 2005 hit and run death of 15 year old Kayla Peter. The registered owner of the Lexus that killed Kayla is Susanna Goihman owner/chef of Azafran Restaurant located at 617 S. Third Street.
I'M SERIOUSLY GOING TO CRY!!!!! OH MY GOD I'VE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY IN MY LIFE THAT I AM JUMPING UP AND DOWN!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU GOD AND THANK YOU DONNA PERSICO AND EVERYONE WHO MADE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!! JUSTICE FOR KAYLA!!!
Donna, What a GREAT Night. I guess a group of people can make a difference. You work very hard to get all of this together and to keep Kayla's case in the news. You have a huge heart, and I am glad that I was able to know you in my lifetime. It makes you feel good to know that there are still a few of us that truely will work hard to get justice or find the truth. So THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH DONNA, I will stand beside you anytime to fight for justice. You are ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are angles who walk among us. Mrs. P. is one of them. If it were not for her determination, this would have taken much longer.
Finally the person who has caused such pain and heart break will be brought in.
Mrs. Goihman is a monster and now people will see her "true self!"
I just wonder how Mrs. Goihman's family could live day in and day out with knowing a killer was amoung them. Maybe they knew and they also were thinking that she could "get away with it." That makes them the same as her!
The giddiness and jubiliation is only a release of so much tension, sadness, and anxiety. People have dedicated many hours, many thoughts, and many prayers towards this cause and it is not as much as the idea of "someone going down" rather then the justice and progress finally starting to roll. It is sad for both sides, sad that something like this even had to occur, but it is not a bad thing to cheer a sense of victory for a cause so strongly fought for. I think these people have every right to rejoice for they feel as though they have been heard, considered, and rightfully acknowledged. So...it's the justice in which everyone is being so giddy and jubliant about and a release of this pent up emotion and feeling of productivity and a sigh of relief that there is some hope left in our system that day by day was questioned more and more, which is straining in itself, in or out of this case...because there is still a hard road of trial and verdict to come...but everyone will still believe...
It's 2 mmonths now and it's about time an arrest warrent went out, I'm so happy this is like the bestest news I've heard in a long time. Can't wait to c how happy ppl r 2nite. R.I.P. Kayla we got ur justice!!!!!!! Love ya
I'm ecstatic at hearing the news that an arrest is imminent. I commend all who kept the pressure on the authorities for resolution and justice. To the friends of Kayla and her family, the love, dedication, loyalty and determination you've shown is admirable and an inspiration to all. Your efforts made a difference and you all should be very proud of the role you played. It's unfortunate and sad that the effort was even needed in the first place, but know that you all made a difference in the quest for justice for Kayla.
Thank God! This decision is far over due, but I am truly happy and relieved that this case is finally moving forward. To Mrs. P and all the others who worked with her, WELL DONE!!!!!!
To Kingsley: Your statement is both ignorant and inappropriate. The only "tragedy" lies with Kayla's friends and family and the fact that it took all this work on there part to come this far. I sure hope you don't end up on the jury. Goihman does not deserve anyone's pity!
Thank God, thank God, thank You, God. I pray that Ms. Goihman will cooperate with the police and not compound the agony of Kayla's family & friends with more silence. Thank God too that she will be unable to put others' lives at risk with her reckless driving.
May God bless Mrs. Persico for her courage and determination. "Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied....Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice's sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
May I ask a question? How is it handled since the news claims she is in FL already...after the issue the warrant how do they make her come back here?? Or if she doesn't I assume she's considered a fugitive?? Anyone??...
courtney...I think they might tell her that she has to come back up to philadelphia and turn herself in, either that or the florida police will take care of it down there, and then bring her back up here to the philadelphia police.
My brother was killed by a hit and run driver a little over a month ago outside of Pittsburgh. There is no word of who did it...not much evidence.
Kingsley, you must not understand the hurt of the families who lose their children/siblings/friends/etc. to hit and run drivers. We feel that the person(s) who leave our loved ones in the street feel that their lives have no worth. How can someone not stop? How can you just go on with your lives knowing that you killed someone and did not stop to render aid or to be with them? My brother was left alone on a highway. That hurts me so badly knowing that the person who hit him left him there to die alone!!! Please...before you speak again, think of the families and friends who are in so much pain!
Congratulations to you all for a job well done. I hope we have the same turn out as you guy do!!!!!
I don't know the Goihmans, and I haven't eaten at Azafran since 1999. I'm just a resident of this area.
At some point, for me, this all seemed to cross over from a desire for justice to a desire for vengeance, and that bothers me. Ms. Persico, in particular, seems to have a lot of sadness and unresolved issues from the prior tragedy in her family. And that's understandable, and she has my utmost sympathy, but that doesn't mean this is the proper forum or means for resolving all that.
The legal system works -- the police and DA's office aren't going to sit quietly when there's a dead body left at the side of the road. But investigations take time -- police don't want to arrest the defendant until they have to, to make sure they've got the evidence they need to hold the suspect and convict her.
There's no evidence that I know of, however, that the driver of that car (assuming it's Ms. Goihman) acted with evil intent. At worst (and most likely), she was stupid and grossly, grossly irresponsible. Whether she has an alcohol problem, was just drunk that night or wasn't even drunk at all, the criminal justice system is fully capable of assessing her responsibility and punishing accordingly. Both justice and mercy will be handed down as appropriate.
The law punishes; we don't. I don't see what legitimate purpose was done in shutting down her business and hurting her employees, or in harassing her neighbors.
I'd rather we all spent our energy supporting MADD and better street lighting to prevent future deaths rather than fighting with each other here.
This is a victory for justice. And these people have every right to celebrate.
What's really sad is that she didn't take responsibility for her actions immediately.
She ran like a coward and left a little girl to die in the street. If she had stopped to render aid, perhaps there wouldn't be warrant for her arrest. Could it be that she was drinking when she hit her and KNEW she'd be going to jail if she stopped?
Why am I wasting my "breath"?
To all who stood shoulder to should and wouldn't let Kayla's death be swept under the rug, KUDOS to you. Celebrate as much as you want!
Are you kidding me? She left, Kingsly, because she has something to hide. An alcohol problem is exactly what she has! Drinking and Driving is a COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE PROBLEM!!! Unfortunately, what is not preventable is the lives that are taken, and the devastated lives this problem leaves behind. You have obviously never had someone you know, care about, or love, plowed down like a piece of trash and left in the road like an animal. Maby if you had, you would'nt make inappropriate and insensitive comments like the one's you have left here. I actually feel sorry for you. You should learn more about this national problem before you make any more comments. Check out www.deadlyroads.com and then let us all know if you feel the same way. Until people like yourself begin to view this problem as more than just an "irresposible act" people like us will continue to do what ever is necessary to obtain JUSTICE for the victims both dead and living. As I've said before, Goihman could have prevented ALL of this, had she come forward and talked to the police. I truly feel sorry for you Kingsley and I hope your life is never changed forever by someone elses "stupid, grossly irresponsible" act! Your words, not mine!
I don't want to spend any more time in a space where open discussion is clearly unwelcome. The hurt and pain many of you have suffered is still too glaring to allow it, and the idea that alcoholism is a pernicious disease that merits some sympathy is clearly not going to gain a fair hearing.
I will just note that PA law will punish as follows:
"Any person who unintentionally causes the death of another person as the result of . . . driving under the influence of alcohol or controlled substance and who is convicted of violating [the law regarding driving under the influence] is guilty of a felony of the second degree when the violation is the cause of death.
"The penalty is a mandatory sentence of 3-10 years incarceration and consecutive 3-10 year terms for each victim whose death is a result. The fine may be as high as $25,000 per victim."
The tragedy here is that an innocent 16 year old girl was murdered by a known drunk driver. Susanna Goihman is nothing but a coward and deserves no pitty only jail time. The tragedy is Susanna Goihman could have prevented this from happening. The tragedy is all of these children that are left behind asking Why? Why did this happen to Kayla?
Kayla's friends and family are an awsome group of people who deserve to rejoice over the news that Goihman will be arrested. The dedication and persistance that they showed over the past two months is amazing. This is your day, you deserve to be giddie, jubuliant and whatever else you want, so to you I say REJOICE.
Rest in Peace Kalya, justice will be served.
To Mrs. P.: I do not know you, but you are one amazing person. The way you have brought these children and a whole community together is nothing short of incredible. You have helped these kids through one of the toughest life experiences they will ever face. They say angel's walk among us.....you Mrs. P are one of those angels. God Bless you, Kayla's family and friends are very lucky to have a person like you in their lives.
Kingsley, you are so misguided. You probably do not have children, but you must have a heart somewhere. Find that heart and tehn use your head to try to put yourself in the parents shoes. Then, try to imagine the pain of parents who's child was taken away from them suddenly, and then try to imagine if the owner of the car that killed your child was refusing to speak to authorities, hiding behind the law and impeding justice. The fact that justice is being served is cause for joy and jubilation. The passed two months have neen a travesty of justice and a period of pain for those who loved Kayla. You seem to seek intellectual discussion. But, common sense discussion, which is what applies here, is beyond you and your understanding and comprehension.
I will apologize to Mrs. P. if I am speaking out of turn here, but I beleive this was intended for open discussion.
As you noted in your last post, many who come here are, in fact, too hurt to consider anything except elation with every step towards justice.
You note that "The legal system works -- the sad truth is, it doesn't always unless there are "cameras" on it.
My niece and her unborn son were killed by someone who, we were told, was not impaired in any way when his car struck hers (on the shoulder of the road, doing 70 mph). No criminal charges were filed by the DA. We finally received the official investigation report and in it, the driver confesses to having had A BEER. And there's more than just that and would take entirely too long to explain here. But the fact is that there are too many discrepancies in the report for us to overlookand trust that the justice system works on it's own. And so your statement:
"Whether she has an alcohol problem, was just drunk that night or wasn't even drunk at all, the criminal justice system is fully capable of assessing her responsibility"
really hard for me to get my arms around.
Regarding the idea that alcoholism is a pernicious disease that merits some sympathy, you're right, at this time it probably won't merit sympathy on this page but I'd be glad to discuss it with you. I know first hand what a pernicious disease it is. And that MAY explain why she ran. But it certainly doesn't explain why she refused to speak during sober moments. My ex is a recovering alcoholic and in the wake of some of his most irresponsible acts, he felt remorse.
If she is, in fact, an alcoholic, which I certainly don't know for sure, that doesn't excuse her making the choice to get behind the wheel of a car under the influence.
Hey, you wanna drink your life away you be my guest, but stay the hell off the road.
I do have sympathy for those who are addicted. I realize that the things they do under the influence are probably not things they'd do in a sober moment. But I DON'T have sympathy for someone who is aware of their problem and refuse to take action to resolve it.
Randi, you NEVER, EVERhave to offer an apology. You and your story drive all of us to continue this quest to completion...and ...to get involved for others and their messages well after this is done.
Kingsley, Ms. Goihman's neighbors were never ever harassed. Actually, if you read former posts from people aside from one or two, they were in full support and understanding. From what Ms Goihman claims, it wasn't the people that shut down her restaurant. She openly claims it was in negotiations way before the accident. Her employees were never directly effected by the occurrences of this group, but of that of their owner, who may I add, ended up shutting down her restaurant BEFORE the given date of August 28th, unless I'm mistaken on what the news is claiming shes closing on Sunday. So is she being ridiculed for ruining her staff's lives like this site has been condemned for taking food out of the mouth's of their families???...cough, cough...and yes, you are right to some extent, the law does punish, not us...but who runs the law?? people...humans, just like you and I. HOpefully saying that law is the punisher doesn't mean that people don't have a hand in aiding it. And from what I've seen, especially on the NBC10.com video clip, the interview is with a DA working on the case, who APPLAUDS everything that has been done by this group to keep this case in the limelight. Yes, there was a sense of urgency, but there is also an intelligent understanding and respect that things had to be done slowly and maticulously in order to get to this point. So for everyone going to the vigil/rememberance tonite...smile for Kayla, that everything is going to be okay :)
The reason Kayla was coming home at 12:00 was because she was late (like most teenagers). Her intended time home I believe was 10:30 - 11:00, but still it does not justify what that monster did to my cousin regardless what time it was!
That's like asking how come the bus didn't stop two inches closer to her house. It's completely irrelevant. I know when I was younger, and I'm from Roxboro, and take the 27 and always took the 27, I had to be in at 10:30 and you think I got any bus any earlier then the 10:25?? Absolutely not, cause I was 15.
Tonight was a beautiful night. I think the media caught every positive and strong emotion when they broadcasted it on the news. Every family member, friend, and stranger is a beautiful aspect in this pretzel process. And did anyone notice the rain held up for this great night to accommodate plans?!?! ;)
I know your reaction was from the heart and not the head. While I don't know for sure, I am assuming that you are a friend of Kayla's. Death is so hard for most everyone, but especially for the young.
I lost a sister to a house fire when I was 14, she was 13. Now, 27 years later I lost my niece to whom I was very close.
Can I tell you..........I reacted most often with my heart than with my head when I lost my sister. The opposite was true when I lost my niece.
It seems that as we get older, while no one wants death to touch their lives, we tend to expect that it will happen to someone we know. And for those of faith, the message of life everlasting, the moving on to a place of peace is of more ocomfort than perhaps it would be to a teenager. I know that message didn't comfort me one bit at 14.
My heart hurts for yours. I understand your grief. Keep talking about it to people who understand. Let your tears come when they want to come. And in the moments between the tears,....live. That's what Kayla would have wanted.
When you read an offensive comment, try to remember that the person writing may not have the in depth knowledge of the situation as perhaps you or I have. It's alot easier to be sympathetic when you're not emotionally attached.
A very wise friend once offered me this to think about:
Some times in life you can't change the situation, but changing the way you LOOK AT IT makes it bearable.
It's been working for me for years!!!! Hope it does for you too.
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11:15 am Monday Aug 22 KYW announced that an arrest warrant has been issued and according to Goihman's attorney she will be turning herself in this afternoon.
They also said she is being charged for leaving the scene of an accident and that the investigation is still ongoing. She is back in Philadelphia!!!!!!!!
This is a good day for everyone who knew and loved Kayla. Finally after two months Kayla will get justice.
Goihman needs to pay the price for taking her away from us. I wonder does Goihman even feel bad in this case? I don't think so. From what I've seen on TV her lawyers are just like are.
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Thank God. Finally! Kudos to all of you who put the pressure on to get this killer! Kayla will finally get to rest in peace.
I'M SERIOUSLY GOING TO CRY!!!!! OH MY GOD I'VE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY IN MY LIFE THAT I AM JUMPING UP AND DOWN!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU GOD AND THANK YOU DONNA PERSICO AND EVERYONE WHO MADE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!! JUSTICE FOR KAYLA!!!
Donna, What a GREAT Night. I guess a group of people can make a difference. You work very hard to get all of this together and to keep Kayla's case in the news. You have a huge heart, and I am glad that I was able to know you in my lifetime. It makes you feel good to know that there are still a few of us that truely will work hard to get justice or find the truth. So THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH DONNA, I will stand beside you anytime to fight for justice. You are ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems an Arrest Warrant will be signed as early as some time today!!! Just heard the news on Channel 6.
So as it turnsout, perhaps tonight will be a celebration of Kayla's life AND a celebration of the arrest of her killer.
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4870779/detail.html
There are angles who walk among us. Mrs. P. is one of them. If it were not for her determination, this would have taken much longer.
Finally the person who has caused such pain and heart break will be brought in.
Mrs. Goihman is a monster and now people will see her "true self!"
I just wonder how Mrs. Goihman's family could live day in and day out with knowing a killer was amoung them. Maybe they knew and they also were thinking that she could "get away with it." That makes them the same as her!
This case is a tragedy for everyone involved. The kind of giddiness and jubilation being expressed here is completely inappropriate.
The giddiness and jubiliation is only a release of so much tension, sadness, and anxiety. People have dedicated many hours, many thoughts, and many prayers towards this cause and it is not as much as the idea of "someone going down" rather then the justice and progress finally starting to roll. It is sad for both sides, sad that something like this even had to occur, but it is not a bad thing to cheer a sense of victory for a cause so strongly fought for. I think these people have every right to rejoice for they feel as though they have been heard, considered, and rightfully acknowledged. So...it's the justice in which everyone is being so giddy and jubliant about and a release of this pent up emotion and feeling of productivity and a sigh of relief that there is some hope left in our system that day by day was questioned more and more, which is straining in itself, in or out of this case...because there is still a hard road of trial and verdict to come...but everyone will still believe...
Well put Courtney!!!!
It's 2 mmonths now and it's about time an arrest warrent went out, I'm so happy this is like the bestest news I've heard in a long time. Can't wait to c how happy ppl r 2nite. R.I.P. Kayla we got ur justice!!!!!!! Love ya
I'm ecstatic at hearing the news that an arrest is imminent. I commend all who kept the pressure on the authorities for resolution and justice. To the friends of Kayla and her family, the love, dedication, loyalty and determination you've shown is admirable and an inspiration to all. Your efforts made a difference and you all should be very proud of the role you played. It's unfortunate and sad that the effort was even needed in the first place, but know that you all made a difference in the quest for justice for Kayla.
Thank God! This decision is far over due, but I am truly happy and relieved that this case is finally moving forward. To Mrs. P and all the others who worked with her, WELL DONE!!!!!!
To Kingsley:
Your statement is both ignorant and inappropriate. The only "tragedy" lies with Kayla's friends and family and the fact that it took all this work on there part to come this far. I sure hope you don't end up on the jury. Goihman does not deserve anyone's pity!
To Kingsley...
Where do you get off? Oh, I see you must be a friend of the Goihmans!
Thank God, thank God, thank You, God. I pray that Ms. Goihman will cooperate with the police and not compound the agony of Kayla's family & friends with more silence. Thank God too that she will be unable to put others' lives at risk with her reckless driving.
May God bless Mrs. Persico for her courage and determination. "Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied....Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice's sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
May I ask a question? How is it handled since the news claims she is in FL already...after the issue the warrant how do they make her come back here?? Or if she doesn't I assume she's considered a fugitive?? Anyone??...
To Everyone who worked SO hard seeking justice for Kayla and her family, ESPECIALLY Donna:
HIP, HIP, HORRAH!
Your tireless efforts and refusal to give up or give in are truely and inspiration to us ALL!
courtney...I think they might tell her that she has to come back up to philadelphia and turn herself in, either that or the florida police will take care of it down there, and then bring her back up here to the philadelphia police.
Congratulations!!!!
My brother was killed by a hit and run driver a little over a month ago outside of Pittsburgh. There is no word of who did it...not much evidence.
Kingsley, you must not understand the hurt of the families who lose their children/siblings/friends/etc. to hit and run drivers. We feel that the person(s) who leave our loved ones in the street feel that their lives have no worth. How can someone not stop? How can you just go on with your lives knowing that you killed someone and did not stop to render aid or to be with them? My brother was left alone on a highway. That hurts me so badly knowing that the person who hit him left him there to die alone!!! Please...before you speak again, think of the families and friends who are in so much pain!
Congratulations to you all for a job well done. I hope we have the same turn out as you guy do!!!!!
Donna, thank you for directing me to this site!
God Bless!!!!
I don't know the Goihmans, and I haven't eaten at Azafran since 1999. I'm just a resident of this area.
At some point, for me, this all seemed to cross over from a desire for justice to a desire for vengeance, and that bothers me. Ms. Persico, in particular, seems to have a lot of sadness and unresolved issues from the prior tragedy in her family. And that's understandable, and she has my utmost sympathy, but that doesn't mean this is the proper forum or means for resolving all that.
The legal system works -- the police and DA's office aren't going to sit quietly when there's a dead body left at the side of the road. But investigations take time -- police don't want to arrest the defendant until they have to, to make sure they've got the evidence they need to hold the suspect and convict her.
There's no evidence that I know of, however, that the driver of that car (assuming it's Ms. Goihman) acted with evil intent. At worst (and most likely), she was stupid and grossly, grossly irresponsible. Whether she has an alcohol problem, was just drunk that night or wasn't even drunk at all, the criminal justice system is fully capable of assessing her responsibility and punishing accordingly. Both justice and mercy will be handed down as appropriate.
The law punishes; we don't. I don't see what legitimate purpose was done in shutting down her business and hurting her employees, or in harassing her neighbors.
I'd rather we all spent our energy supporting MADD and better street lighting to prevent future deaths rather than fighting with each other here.
Just to reiterate, based on what SeanSister said while I was writing:
I absolutely agree with all of you: the driver's actions were reckless and reprehensible.
That doesn't mean that I have to agree with the way you've chosen to respond.
Kingsley,
This is a victory for justice. And these people have every right to celebrate.
What's really sad is that she didn't take responsibility for her actions immediately.
She ran like a coward and left a little girl to die in the street. If she had stopped to render aid, perhaps there wouldn't be warrant for her arrest. Could it be that she was drinking when she hit her and KNEW she'd be going to jail if she stopped?
Why am I wasting my "breath"?
To all who stood shoulder to should and wouldn't let Kayla's death be swept under the rug, KUDOS to you. Celebrate as much as you want!
"stupid and grossly irresponsibe"???
Are you kidding me? She left, Kingsly, because she has something to hide. An alcohol problem is exactly what she has! Drinking and Driving is a COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE PROBLEM!!! Unfortunately, what is not preventable is the lives that are taken, and the devastated lives this problem leaves behind. You have obviously never had someone you know, care about, or love, plowed down like a piece of trash and left in the road like an animal. Maby if you had, you would'nt make inappropriate and insensitive comments like the one's you have left here. I actually feel sorry for you. You should learn more about this national problem before you make any more comments. Check out www.deadlyroads.com and then let us all know if you feel the same way. Until people like yourself begin to view this problem as more than just an "irresposible act" people like us will continue to do what ever is necessary to obtain JUSTICE for the victims both dead and living.
As I've said before, Goihman could have prevented ALL of this, had she come forward and talked to the police.
I truly feel sorry for you Kingsley and I hope your life is never changed forever by someone elses "stupid, grossly irresponsible" act! Your words, not mine!
I don't want to spend any more time in a space where open discussion is clearly unwelcome. The hurt and pain many of you have suffered is still too glaring to allow it, and the idea that alcoholism is a pernicious disease that merits some sympathy is clearly not going to gain a fair hearing.
I will just note that PA law will punish as follows:
"Any person who unintentionally causes the death of another person as the result of . . . driving under the influence of alcohol or controlled substance and who is convicted of violating [the law regarding driving under the influence] is guilty of a felony of the second degree when the violation is the cause of death.
"The penalty is a mandatory sentence of 3-10 years incarceration and consecutive 3-10 year terms for each victim whose death is a result. The fine may be as high as $25,000 per victim."
Have faith in the system. Justice will be done.
The tragedy here is that an innocent 16 year old girl was murdered by a known drunk driver. Susanna Goihman is nothing but a coward and deserves no pitty only jail time. The tragedy is Susanna Goihman could have prevented this from happening. The tragedy is all of these children that are left behind asking Why? Why did this happen to Kayla?
Kayla's friends and family are an awsome group of people who deserve to rejoice over the news that Goihman will be arrested. The dedication and persistance that they showed over the past two months is amazing. This is your day, you deserve to be giddie, jubuliant and whatever else you want, so to you I say REJOICE.
Rest in Peace Kalya, justice will be served.
To Mrs. P.: I do not know you, but you are one amazing person. The way you have brought these children and a whole community together is nothing short of incredible. You have helped these kids through one of the toughest life experiences they will ever face. They say angel's walk among us.....you Mrs. P are one of those angels. God Bless you, Kayla's family and friends are very lucky to have a person like you in their lives.
No excuse for the driver not stopping to help after the accident, but. Why the hell was a 15 year old girl out alone just before midnight?
Kingsley, you are so misguided. You probably do not have children, but you must have a heart somewhere. Find that heart and tehn use your head to try to put yourself in the parents shoes. Then, try to imagine the pain of parents who's child was taken away from them suddenly, and then try to imagine if the owner of the car that killed your child was refusing to speak to authorities, hiding behind the law and impeding justice. The fact that justice is being served is cause for joy and jubilation. The passed two months have neen a travesty of justice and a period of pain for those who loved Kayla. You seem to seek intellectual discussion. But, common sense discussion, which is what applies here, is beyond you and your understanding and comprehension.
she was alone because her bus stop was the last stop. people were with her, but they had to get off at their stops.
Kingsley,
I will apologize to Mrs. P. if I am speaking out of turn here, but I beleive this was intended for open discussion.
As you noted in your last post, many who come here are, in fact, too hurt to consider anything except elation with every step towards justice.
You note that "The legal system works -- the sad truth is, it doesn't always unless there are "cameras" on it.
My niece and her unborn son were killed by someone who, we were told, was not impaired in any way when his car struck hers (on the shoulder of the road, doing 70 mph). No criminal charges were filed by the DA. We finally received the official investigation report and in it, the driver confesses to having had A BEER. And there's more than just that and would take entirely too long to explain here. But the fact is that there are too many discrepancies in the report for us to overlookand trust that the justice system works on it's own. And so your statement:
"Whether she has an alcohol problem, was just drunk that night or wasn't even drunk at all, the criminal justice system is fully capable of assessing her responsibility"
really hard for me to get my arms around.
Regarding the idea that alcoholism is a pernicious disease that merits some sympathy, you're right, at this time it probably won't merit sympathy on this page but I'd be glad to discuss it with you. I know first hand what a pernicious disease it is. And that MAY explain why she ran. But it certainly doesn't explain why she refused to speak during sober moments. My ex is a recovering alcoholic and in the wake of some of his most irresponsible acts, he felt remorse.
If she is, in fact, an alcoholic, which I certainly don't know for sure, that doesn't excuse her making the choice to get behind the wheel of a car under the influence.
Hey, you wanna drink your life away you be my guest, but stay the hell off the road.
I do have sympathy for those who are addicted. I realize that the things they do under the influence are probably not things they'd do in a sober moment. But I DON'T have sympathy for someone who is aware of their problem and refuse to take action to resolve it.
Randi, you NEVER, EVERhave to offer an apology. You and your story drive all of us to continue this quest to completion...and
...to get involved for others and their messages well after this is done.
With deep respect.
Donna
Kingsley,
Ms. Goihman's neighbors were never ever harassed. Actually, if you read former posts from people aside from one or two, they were in full support and understanding. From what Ms Goihman claims, it wasn't the people that shut down her restaurant. She openly claims it was in negotiations way before the accident. Her employees were never directly effected by the occurrences of this group, but of that of their owner, who may I add, ended up shutting down her restaurant BEFORE the given date of August 28th, unless I'm mistaken on what the news is claiming shes closing on Sunday. So is she being ridiculed for ruining her staff's lives like this site has been condemned for taking food out of the mouth's of their families???...cough, cough...and yes, you are right to some extent, the law does punish, not us...but who runs the law?? people...humans, just like you and I. HOpefully saying that law is the punisher doesn't mean that people don't have a hand in aiding it. And from what I've seen, especially on the NBC10.com video clip, the interview is with a DA working on the case, who APPLAUDS everything that has been done by this group to keep this case in the limelight. Yes, there was a sense of urgency, but there is also an intelligent understanding and respect that things had to be done slowly and maticulously in order to get to this point.
So for everyone going to the vigil/rememberance tonite...smile for Kayla, that everything is going to be okay :)
J,
Does it matter why Kayla was coming home at 12:00? No matter what time it was nothing will ever justify what that murding monster did to my cousin!
J,
The reason Kayla was coming home at 12:00 was because she was late (like most teenagers). Her intended time home I believe was 10:30 - 11:00, but still it does not justify what that monster did to my cousin regardless what time it was!
That's like asking how come the bus didn't stop two inches closer to her house. It's completely irrelevant. I know when I was younger, and I'm from Roxboro, and take the 27 and always took the 27, I had to be in at 10:30 and you think I got any bus any earlier then the 10:25?? Absolutely not, cause I was 15.
Kingsley-
Stop writing!
What you write means zip!
Cmon now...everyone is entitled to speak their mind. We all have different views and perspectives. It's what makes the world go 'round.
Tonight was a beautiful night. I think the media caught every positive and strong emotion when they broadcasted it on the news. Every family member, friend, and stranger is a beautiful aspect in this pretzel process. And did anyone notice the rain held up for this great night to accommodate plans?!?! ;)
Randi D.
I understand that every one has a right to their own thoughts. Sorry. It is hard not to get offended at some peoples thoughts.
I find myself in a tangled mess of emotions right now. Thank you to you and everyone else that has stood, night after night, in support of Kayla.
Kayla was very much loved and she love everyone around her.
Brokenhearted,
I know your reaction was from the heart and not the head. While I don't know for sure, I am assuming that you are a friend of Kayla's. Death is so hard for most everyone, but especially for the young.
I lost a sister to a house fire when I was 14, she was 13. Now, 27 years later I lost my niece to whom I was very close.
Can I tell you..........I reacted most often with my heart than with my head when I lost my sister. The opposite was true when I lost my niece.
It seems that as we get older, while no one wants death to touch their lives, we tend to expect that it will happen to someone we know. And for those of faith, the message of life everlasting, the moving on to a place of peace is of more ocomfort than perhaps it would be to a teenager. I know that message didn't comfort me one bit at 14.
My heart hurts for yours. I understand your grief. Keep talking about it to people who understand. Let your tears come when they want to come. And in the moments between the tears,....live. That's what Kayla would have wanted.
Brokenhearted
One final thought......
When you read an offensive comment, try to remember that the person writing may not have the in depth knowledge of the situation as perhaps you or I have. It's alot easier to be sympathetic when you're not emotionally attached.
A very wise friend once offered me this to think about:
Some times in life you can't change the situation, but changing the way you LOOK AT IT makes it bearable.
It's been working for me for years!!!! Hope it does for you too.
Hugs
As of today, there's no warrant.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/12429502.htm
I'm sure that hard work and patience will eventually pay off.
WOW "J" - yet he who is without sin cast the first stone. Never broke the rules now did ya Scooter??
How long can it possibly take to write, type and issue a warrant? Perhaps enough time to allow "G to flee?" God help this city if that happens.
Randi D.
Your friend has good insight. Sometimes we need that one person to say "hold on, step back a little and let's think about this."
Thank you for your words.
Hugs back.
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Hi all, today, Monday August 22, we will watch and wait to see if the arrest warrant has been presented to the DA. If we hear no word we will bigin phase 3 of "Justice For Kayla".
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11:15 am Monday Aug 22 KYW announced that an arrest warrant has been issued and according to Goihman's attorney she will be turning herself in this afternoon.
They also said she is being charged for leaving the scene of an accident and that the investigation is still ongoing. She is back in Philadelphia!!!!!!!!
Patti O.
I'm on my knees!!!!!!
Knock it off! I'm thanking God....what were you thinking????
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
And she looked like shit too. Even better!
That's because SHE IS SHIT!!!
Sorry....had to say it!
This is a good day for everyone who knew and loved Kayla. Finally after two months Kayla will get justice.
Goihman needs to pay the price for taking her away from us. I wonder does Goihman even feel bad in this case? I don't think so. From what I've seen on TV her lawyers are just like are.
Keep Kayla in your prayers!
To Kingsley:
This is Kayla's forum. So, if you don't like something someone says about the death of Kayla Peter, then go away.
Stuart,
My thoughts exactly!
This is Kayla's forum.
For FRIENDS and FAMILY alike.
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